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Veronica,
I was referring to one compounding tank in which the prefilter is placed after (downstream) from it. 
Thanks  
Sincerely,

Frank Settineri 
Veracorp LLC 
Sparta, New Jersey 
908-499-5540 
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    On Monday, March 9, 2020, 09:57:37 AM EDT, Veronica Marshall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
 
 One word of caution on this approach - this will not eliminate the need to 
collect prefiltration bioburden from the first tank.  You can raise the 
limit in the first tank and apply the lower limit only to the tank after 
the extra 0.45 um filter, but both tanks should be tested.  US agency are 
now requiring this on review.  The argument being that prefiltration 
should show worst case bioburden.


Veronica Marshall
Sr. Manager, Quality Control





From:  "Frank Settineri" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:  03/06/2020 03:56 PM
Subject:        Re: [PMFLIST] In-Process Bioburden Limits
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A work around the 10 CFU/100 mL "prefiltration" bioburden is to insert a 
0.45 um filter AFTER the compounding tank and take the bioburden sample 
after the filter.  If starting with a relatively clean process a bioburden 
of 10 CFU/100 mL can be readily achieved.  
Downstream, two, 0.22 um filters would need to be used as sterilizing 
filters. To summarize three filters are required: a 0.45 um filter (for 
bioburden reduction) and duplicate 0.22 um filters for sterilization.
I've personally used this setup and recommended it to clients; US, 
European and ROW agencies have accepted it. 
Sincerely,

Frank Settineri 
Veracorp LLC 
Sparta, New Jersey 
908-499-5540 
www.veracorp.biz 
http://www.linkedin.com/in/veracorp

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    On Friday, March 6, 2020, 01:21:20 PM EST, Tony Cundell 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
 
 Chris has supplied a useful EMA guidance document.

A distinction must be made between bioburden control during downstream
processing and bulk solution prior to sterile filtration.

The EMA NMT 10 cfu/100 mL limit is extremely conservative as a challenge 
to
a sterilizing filter or control a bioburden that may add bacterial
endotoxins to the product. Also it the limit for WFI.

A sterilizing filter validation requirement is > 10^7 CFU per sq. cm of
filter area. Given the surface area of cartridge filter and the volume of
the bulk product and bioburden would easily be 2-3 magnitudes higher, i.e.
10 or 100 cfu/mL.

In terms of downstream processing, most companies have a
bioburden-reduction filtration after each major processing step and may
maintain the product at 2-8 degree C to limit bacterial growth.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:22 AM Knutsen, Chris <
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> For the pre-sterile filtration bioburden specification, see the EMEA 
"Note
> for Guidance on Manufacture of the Finished Dosage Form" on page 5/6.  
It
> states that, for most situations, NMT 10 CFU/100 mL is acceptable.  You
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> Hello all,
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> I am wondering how companies are assigning their alert/action limits for
> pre-filtration bulk bioburden samples if data normally produces zeroes.
> Testing is performed as per USP <61>.
> Is there an approach of considering the limits on the active raw
> materials/volume of WFI used to formulate/validated filter SAL or is it
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