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Re: Incubator Temperature Monitoring Systems

From:

"Boesenberg, Diane" <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:42:51 -0500

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Carolann,

We have used a variety of recording devices for our incubators.

We used to use Fluke K/J recordable thermometers in each incubator - set
them to record and you can read max / min at any time interval you wish.  We
had a set schedule for changing the batteries (1 x / month) to make sure
they did not die on us mid-stream.  We checked the max / min daily - but it
does not tell you how long it was out of range if the max or min are outside
of your set limit for the equipment - just that it was out.

We then went to the REES Environmental Monitoring system - much more
expensive, but its hooked up to a computer and it alarms (audible from box
and calls on phone) if the equipment goes out of range.  The system is
validated by the company 2x's / year.  We can print out the data in a
variety of formats for our report purposes.  We have it set to record 1 x /
hour normally and every minute if the equipment is out of range.

Really depends on how much you are willing to spend and how sophisticated
you can afford to be.

Hope this helps.

Diane



-----Original Message-----
From: Stiklickas, Carolann [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [PMFLIST] Incubator Temperature Monitoring Systems


I have about 6 incubators that need monitoring - we currently manually
record temps daily, but feel that this is not frequent enough.  I would
prefer a downloadable instrument over paper chart recorders, but am
evaluating cost comparisons first.

Carolanne


-----Original Message-----
From: The Pharmaceutical Microbiology Forum Email List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Stewart, Ryan
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [PMFLIST] Incubator Temperature Monitoring Systems


Carolanne,

Are you looking for chart recorders on a few units or a more comprehensive
monitoring solution?

rWs

-----Original Message-----
From: Stiklickas, Carolann [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [PMFLIST] Incubator Temperature Monitoring Systems

All,

I'm considering purchasing an AES brand Labguard monitor or Dickson Data
Logger for incubator temperature monitoring and would like feedback from
anyone currently using either of these products.  Also, any recommendations
for a different brand of temp. recorder that is downloadable would be
appreciated.

Regards,
Carolanne Stiklickas


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Phil Geis
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [PMFLIST] incubation time question???


Good points John.  My bet is that, if there were a difference, it would be
greater recovery from water with the extra day.



From: "Wyke, John" <[log in to unmask]> on 12/16/2003 07:18 AM GMT

                   "Wyke, John"           To:   [log in to unmask]
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                                       question???
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Hi Everyone,

At the risk of being shouted down :-)

What is the risk of an extra day's incubation? Some more colonies may become
visible?

And that would be dreadful because microbiology is such an exact science <g>
that in the EP they state that where a limit of 100 is given they mean
anything from 50 - 100.

If you're testing where a single colony (or 10) is critical then someone
should come in on the Sunday otherwise I would struggle to justify the
expense (other than if things go wrong then you get higher counts (it fails
safe?) so there may be a business cost).

I don't know of any organisms that will be in nice countable colonies on the
fifth day and enter a phase of invisible growth as the clock ticks on past
midnight.

Seriously though, I've worked in clinical, water, pharmaceutical and food
laboratories and we only read plates on Sundays if people were in anyway,
most of the time they were left for the extra day.

John Wyke
QA Manager
Rosemont Pharmaceuticals Ltd


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